Who was Elizabeth Jerman 1818?

The parentage of my GGG Grandmother, Elizabeth Jerman, has exercised my, and a few others' minds for a few years.  Her history provides a good example of the very complicated inter-relationships that existed between Jerman families.  I have set out here some of the indicators that have led me to the conclusions expressed.

1. Bishops Transcript Llangurig: Daniel Jarman (born 1785) married Margaret Jerman (born 1790) on 21 November 1812 at the Parish Church of St Michael, Trefeglwys.  They were first cousins.  Both shared common grandparents: Daniel Jerman (1727-1801) and Martha Meredith. 

Groom Daniel's father, Thomas, of Llanbrynmair, was sister to Margaret's mother Mary.

To further complicate matters, bride Margaret's parents were both Jermans: her mother Mary was of the Cae Iago family and father, Richard, of the Pennhyle, Llangurig family.

21 Nov 1812 marriage at St Michael, Trefeglwys by licence of Daniel Jarman of Llanbrynmair and Margaret Jarman otp wit Thomas Jones and Davis Davies. Montgomeryshire GenSoc Parish Record Transcriptions @findmypast.

2. Their daughter Elizabeth Jerman is believed to have been baptised at St Michael's, Trefeglwys, on 30 Sep 1818.   Her father is mentioned as Daniel Jarman of Vairdref-fawr, probably the farm shown on the modern map as Faedre Fawr, back down towards to the Van area.   Mother mentioned as "Margaret, his [Daniel's] wife".

(Map of Glynbrochan area needed here)

3. Between 1818 and 1841 Daniel has moved to Tybryth, in Glynbrochan township, between Llanidloes and Llangurig.  Elizabeth Jerman of "Tybrith", daughter of Daniel Jarman, farmer, marries Edward George, on 19 March 1841, at the Parish Church. Llangurig.  This couple would later establish themselves at Glyngynwydd Mill.   However, for now, at the beginning of their marriage they are a little further away in Glynbrochan, on the banks of the upper Severn.

4. 1841 Census: Daniel Jerman at Tybryth

Very close by at "Tybryth" in Glynbrochan Township, are believed to be Elizabeth's parents: Daniel and Mary Jerman, son Daniel (18), daughter Margaret (c.20) and son Thomas (aged 13).  Tybryth is not shown on the modern map but according to the enumerator's return would have been in the area around Glan y Nant.  The newly-weds would have been close by, just down-stream at Penygraig fulling mill.  This all fits perfectly, apart from the mother's name, Daniel's wife, being Mary rather than Margaret.  At the moment we are making an assumption that the name has been shortened.

5. 1841 Census  - further afield, but still alive, at Pennant township, Llanbrynmair - Daniel Jerman's elderly parents - Thomas Jerman and Ann Griffith, Thomas aged 85.


 6. Census 1851.  Cringoed (Llanbrynmair) Daniel Jerman (65) ,wife Mary (60) - noted as Jameson.  This fits Daniel's supposed birth date of 1775.

Margaret (13) and Ann (8) are noted as daughters, but probably grand-daughters (given that a real daughter Ann is mentioned in his later will as a widow).  Daniel and Thomas are also resident as sons.

7. Death of Daniel Jerman, Cringoed, Llanbrynmair, 2 May 1851, and proved at St Asaph :  7 October 1851.

- Daughter Mary the wife of Richard Davies of Glynbrochan in the Parish of Llangurig is mentioned - she may be shown at "Glanant" - back in Glynbrochan -  in 1851, although is shown aged 47, meaning a birth outside marriage of Daniel and Margaret in 1812.  However, this family is right next door to...

- Daughter Margaret is mentioned as wife of John Williams - she appears in 1851 resident at Tyncoed, in Glynbrochan township, Llangurig, not far from Tybrith.

Both these daughters are shown as being born in Trefeglwys.

By 1851, daughter Elizabeth and husband Edward George have moved away from this particular area to continue their married life at Glyngynwydd Mill, near Cwmbelan.

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